Behind The Board: Heba Kadry

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Behind The Board: Heba Kadry On Working With Björk, Audio As Escapism And Constantly Improving

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In the latest episode of Behind The Board, Egyptian-born mastering engineer Heba Kadry explains how her first major project with Icelandic legend Björk proved what she was capable of, the necessity of experimentation and how even bad mixes can teach
Lior Phillips
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Oct 25, 2021 - 3:26 pm

Growing up in Egypt, Heba Kadry quickly learned the value of fusing technical knowledge, musical passion and people skills. 

Her father was a civil engineer and her mother was a chemist, so scientific rigor and precision were important — but her father's tinkering as a keyboardist and mandolinist helped unlock her passion for music. 

As a mastering engineer who has worked with experimentalists like Björk, Beach House and Hayley Williams, Kadry's ability to bridge her scientific mind with an artistic soul has proven invaluable. But first, she put in time as a jingle writer for an ad agency.

"My first day recording one of those jingles, I went to a studio in downtown Cairo," Kadry shares. "[There was] a guy sitting behind the board, and I was like, 'That guy. How do I become that guy?'"

Watch the below episode of Behind The Board to hear what Kadry has to say about flying to Iceland to work with Björk, the value of getting thrown into the fire and how working through bad mixes can give you the ability to improve good mixes.

With a long catalog full of beloved independent experimental artists, Kadry emphasizes the importance of trying new things. 

"You've got to be down to experiment," she explains. "Instead of mastering being this correction process, mastering can be the cherry on top, the sweetening. How do you make things even better, more lush, more beautiful?"

Check below for more producer and engineer stories from the Behind The Board series.

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Behind The Board: Jack Antonoff On Chasing Voices, Ignoring Outsiders And Why Discomfort Makes For The Best Music

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Five-time GRAMMY-winner singer/songwriter, producer and engineer Jack Antonoff explains each of his roles' importance and shares his formula for success, in the newest episode of Behind The Board
Taj Mayfield
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Oct 5, 2021 - 2:42 pm

Five-time GRAMMY winner Jack Antonoff classifies himself as operating in four different lanes of music: artistry, engineering, producing and songwriting.

"They bleed together because they're interesting, but in my head, they're really, really separate," stresses Antonoff in the latest episode of Behind The Board.

Watch down below to hear Antonoff make the distinction between each.

Watch Jack Antonoff Break Down His Musical Process

While Antonoff may notice relative gulfs between his changing roles, the results seem to stay the same as long as he has a hand in them.

As an artist, Antonoff won two GRAMMYs in 2013 for Best New Artist and Song Of The Year as the guitarist for the pop band Fun. and currently serves as the lead singer of the indie pop band Bleachers. The behind-the-scenes version of Antonoff—the engineer, producer and songwriter—works with artists like Lana Del Rey, Lorde and Taylor Swift and takes home GRAMMYs for Album of The Year (2020's Folklore) and Best Rock Song ("Masseducation").

So what's Antonoff's key to success? "Find that thing that brings you discomfort and sit in it," shares the 15-time GRAMMY nominee.

Watch the above video for more advice from Antonoff and check down below for more episodes of Behind The Board.

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Behind The Board: David Greenbaum

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Behind The Board: Producer-Engineer David Greenbaum On His Musical Beginnings & Capturing Happy Accidents

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The five-time GRAMMY winner celebrated for his work with Beck brings us into his music-stuffed space for a candid chat about artistic decision-making
Morgan Enos
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Feb 17, 2021 - 12:16 pm

Producer-engineer David Greenbaum cleaned up at the 57th and 61st GRAMMY Awards thanks to his work with one artist—the imitable Beck Hansen. His production on 2014's atmospheric Morning Phase and 2017's radiant Colors netted him Album Of The Year, Best Rock Album and Best Engineered Album for Morning Phase, and Best Alternative Music Album and Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical for Colors. This year, for the 63rd GRAMMYs Awards Show, he’s nominated for Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical for 2019’s Hyperspace. 

Now, for the latest episode of Behind The Board, Greenbaum details the path that led him here.

David Greenbaum Talks His Musical Beginnings

"I played in bands originally, and then it sort of became an obsession, you know?" he muses from his music-stuffed space. "My bedroom, I converted into basically something very similar to this." As Greenbaum explains, his interest was so insatiable that he went from recording friends' bands to writing his own material. "I just wanted to be able to do everything," he says with a grin.

Greenbaum is keenly aware that spontaneous imperfections can make a tune transcendent. "Some of my favorite moments in sessions are the experiments and the accidents," he says. "Some of the most magical things have come from when you accidentally loop a thing—it's doing something weird, or the computer screws up—and you're just like 'Wait a minute! What was that? That was amazing!'"

Watch Greenbaum's appearance on Behind The Board above and check out other episodes of the series here.

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Behind The Board: Joel Little On Working With Lorde, How Vans Warped Tour Inspired Him & More

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The GRAMMY-winning producer/songwriter talks though his path of starting a band, a record label and a successful studio career
Nate Hertweck
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Apr 6, 2020 - 2:44 pm

New Zealand-born producer/songwriter Joel Little's career took off when he co-wrote and produced Lorde's 2013 smash hit, "Royals." But as with any successful professional, the journey began long before the accolades rolled.

Behind The Board: Joel Little

A guitar player since age 13, Little's road to a career in music started with Vans Warped Tour in 1998, where everything changed. He started taking the idea of forming a band seriously after seeing that show, and went on to form pop/punk outfit Goodnight Nurse in Auckland in 2001.

On the side, he started a label with his Goodnight Nurse bandmate, Sam McCarthy, and found some early success working behind-the-scenes on music. He setup a recording studio, and one of the first artists who came in to work there was Lorde. Little earned a GRAMMY win for Song Of The Year and another nomination for Record Of The Year for his work on "Royals."

In the latest episode of Behind the Board, Little shows us around his current setup, and talks about what works for him as a producer/songwriter. To Little, it's not about his ego or imposing his influnce into the process.

"I shouldn't be trying to force myself on the song," he said. "I'm there to help [the artist] say what they want to say."

He aslo recounts the best advice he's ever recieved, talks about learning the ropes and setting up his studio without studying audio engineering in school and more above in the video above.

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Behind The Board: Shooter Jennings On Growing Up In Music, His Dad's Best Advice & Producing Great Records

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The GRAMMY-winning producer, who has recently made albums with the likes of Brandi Carlile, Tanya Tucker and Marilyn Manson, takes on his journey Behind The Board
Nate Hertweck
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May 4, 2020 - 12:58 pm

GRAMMY-winning producer Shooter Jennings hit the ground running, born into a family of musical royalty with parents Jessi Colter and Waylon Jennings. And Shooter has taken what he learned from those early experiences and turned them into a spectacular career as a producer. In the latest episode of Behind The Board, we learn more about his journey and how he's never done learning from the artists he works with in the studio.

Behind The Board: Shooter Jennings

"I learn from every record that I do. I'm very fortunate because I'm getting all this knowledge from other creative people that serves me in other areas, and I love that," he said. "I'm really respectful of the fact that they take me into their band. Getting to jump in and get in the mix is addictive. It's really fun. It's kinda like going on a date, a first date where you really like the girl [laughs]."

Shooter talked about learning from his experiences growing up on the road and in the studio and how it's led him to a life of learning from the artists he works with, each one offering something different to teach him.

"All the records that I've worked on this year have had their own special experiences," he said. Shooter produced Brandi Carlile's By The Way, I Forgive You album followed by Tanya Tucker's Whille I'm Livin', both of which earned GRAMMY Awards. Most recently, Shooter has gone back to his hard rock roots, producing the latest album by 4-time GRAMMY nominee Marilyn Manson, a project that had a huge impact on his career and life.

"The Marilyn Manson record was hands down the most big journey I've ever been on," he said. "It's really this poetic journey with him, and it's like this wheel of chaos that has been spinning for a year and a half of my life that I love. My life is completely different because of that record." 

In the video above, Jennings also discusses what makes a perfect record and reveals the best advice his father ever gave him.

"My dad said to me when I was younger, 'Don't ever try to be like anyone else, because you're never gonna be,'" Shooter shared. "It took a long time for me to really get that, you know. But, that to me has always stood the test of time."

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